Don't Look Now, but I Think That Cake is Naked!

Fluffy seven minute frosting will be happy to dress your cake.

Fluffy seven minute frosting will be happy to dress your cake.

Sometimes I like a naked cake–a simple coffee cake, maybe a moist chocolate pound cake with a little confectioner’s sugar sifted on top, gingerbread–but most of the time, I like my layer cakes frosted.  Not that standard layer cakes can’t stand on their own, mind you.  It’s just that, well, I really like frosting and tend to think of most layer cakes as a way to get said frosting into my face.

Yesterday, I received a question about frostings.  Let’s take a look, shall we?

I don’t usually dress my cakes, but on the occasions that I need to (birthdays), what would be a good frosting to use that would give me a smooth and firm enough surface to pipe words on, APART from buttercream which I dont like. I like the lightness of whipped cream, but it’s not firm nor smooth enough. (btw, if you can share how to make a stabilised whipped cream, i would appreciate it! I usually just toss in some icing sugar, read somewhere that it helps to prevent weeping).I don’t dress my cakes, partly because I cant think of what to use aside from buttercream.–Michaela

I emailed Michaela to see what she meant when she said “buttercream,” because that’s one of those slippery pastry terms that means different things to different people.  She said that she doesn’t like the butter and confectioner’s sugar kind of buttercream, because the butter flavor is too strong.  I love the flavor of butter, so this is an alien position for me, but I’m going to try to help anyway.

My first thought is to substitute half of the butter for cream cheese or shortening.  This will give more or less the same consistency that you need for spreading but the butter flavor will be less pronounced.  My recipe for cream cheese frosting is here, and you can always substitute an equal amount of shortening for the cream cheese to make a more neutral, less tangy frosting.

Here’s another thought:  Seven Minute Frosting, named thusly because you have to beat it for……Seven Minutes!  This is basically a cooked meringue frosting.  Some folks call it marshmallow frosting.  You can, too, if you’d like.  It has a very smooth, light mouth feel, and if I remember correctly from childhood, the outside will firm up on standing, making it pretty easy to pipe on, especially if you ice smoothly.  Most folks swirl this frosting on with abandon because it’s poofy and lends itself to that.  This recipe is based on one by that Queen of Butter and Mayonnaise, Paula Deen.  Paula Deen scares me just a little bit, but that’s another story.  And her frosting recipe is tasty.  Here’s how you do it.

Paula Deen-ish Seven Minute Frosting

  • 10.5 oz. sugar
  • 1 tsp lemon juice
  • heavy pinch of salt
  • 2 oz water (4 TBSP)
  • 2 egg whites
  • 1 tsp vanilla extract (my mom used to make this with peppermint extract and green food coloring)

Put all of your ingredients in the top of a double boiler (or in a bowl that will fit down in one of your pans).  Beat with a hand-held mixer for 1 minute.  (Use the whip attachment). Then, place the bowl over a pan of boiling water, making sure the water doesn’t touch the bottom of the bowl.  Beat continuously on high speed for seven minutes.  Remove from heat, and beat in the vanilla.  Spread on your cake right after making, because it will firm up on standing.  (And before you say anything, I realize that, to call it Seven Minute Frosting, you have to ignore the first minute of beating.  Either ignore it or call it Eight Minute Frosting.  I care not).

I’m not going to address European-style buttercream here because, if Michaela doesn’t like the flavor of butter, I doubt she’ll like these frostings.  If anyone else wants to know about them, let me know in the comments section.

Right, on to stabilized whipped cream.  Cream is an emulsion of water and fat, and when we whip that emulsion into a foam, eventually some of the water will leak out.  No fun.  So, what we need to do is find something that will give the water something to do, so it doesn’t get bored and wander away.  The best way I know to keep the water in cream occupied is to use gelatin.  You’ll need 1/2 to 1 teaspoon of powdered gelatin per cup of cream, depending upon how firm you want your cream to be.  Experiment with it a bit to see what your preference is.

Stabilized Whipped Cream

  • 1 tsp plain gelatin
  • 2 TBSP water
  • 1 cup heavy cream
  • pinch of salt
  • 2-4 TBSP powdered sugar (depending on how sweet you like your cream)
  • 1/2 tsp vanilla

Sprinkle the gelatin over the water, stir so all of the gelatin is wet, and then let it sit for about 10 minutes.  You’ll know it’s ready when you have a solid block of gelatin staring at you.  Take this block of gelatin and put it in a pan.  Melt it over low heat, until it is completely clear and smooth.  Cool to room temperature.

Whip the cream with a pinch of salt to soft peaks.  While still whipping, drizzle the gelatin mixture in and whip really well to avoid getting little clumps of gelatin in your whipped cream.  Whip in the sugar and vanilla (or other flavoring).  Use this to fill and/or frost a cake.  Of course, you’ll have to keep your cake refrigerated.

You can scale this recipe up with no problem, so make as much as you need.  As an added bonus, this makes a nice, “light” dessert.  Stir some jam or a little fruit puree–or even some chocolate sauce, into the cream, leaving streaks–you don’t want it completely homogenized.  Then, let your creations set up in the fridge.  You can call it “whipped panna cotta” if you want.  Easy and yummy dessert.  Not fat-free, but what are you gonna do?

So, Michaela, I hope this has helped.  You guys know that I’m happy to answer questions, so please let me know if you have any burning pastry questions you want answered, and I’ll do my best.  “I’m from the pastry department.  I’m here to help.”

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  • duodishes

    This frosting sounds really good…perfect for those who don’t particularly like cream cheese icing or buttercream. Plus it does look pretty.

  • http://beyond-ramen.blogspot.com Chris

    That Seven Minute frosting sounds magical – I’ve never heard of a frosting that is 1) so simple to make and 2) sets up so quickly!

  • http://www.livinginthekitchenwithpuppies.blogspot.com Natashya

    I like the sound of the seven minute frosting.
    I am the same way about buttercream – I do like butter but I don’t like the taste of icing sugar – it that weird?

  • Li

    I’m gonna have to try that frosting. I don’t like buttercream, it tastes like a heartattack. Buttercream is too heavy for me, I get nauseous if I eat too much.
    I made some pastries (looks like this http://www.matklubben.se/cache/1/b/f/1bf333cdf141a5bdf8a7b9ff910b4d32.jpg) for my MIL. It’s sooo much butter in them. Like a butterdough with buttercream in between. I almost cringed when I watched her eat those (even though they taste great in very small amounts).

  • http://www.pastrychefonline.com onlinepastrychef

    @duodishes It is nice, because it’s one of the few I’ve found that doesn’t call for any butter at all.

    @Chris I wonder if it’s a “Southern Thang.” All the church ladies made this when I was growing up in NC. Grudging props to Paula Deen. ;)

    @Natashya No, you’re not weird. Maybe it’s that slightly chalky “I’ve got corn starch in me” thing that you don’t like. Understandable.

    @Li That pastry sure sounds like a boatload of richness! lol that buttercream tastes like a heart attack! :D

  • http://chefbliss.com ChefBliss

    I love 7 minute frosting! My mom has been making it since she was a teenager (1950′s), and it was always my favorite growing up! I have no idea where she got it from but I love it!! I’ll have to look it up and see how it compares to this one. But the finished product is the same! Looks GREAT!!

  • http://damncutebunnies.blogspot.com/ Niko

    An easy way to help stabilize whipping cream is to add a tablespoon or two of vanilla instant pudding to it while whipping. The pudding also adds sweetness so no sugar is necessary. It’s a trick my mom taught me.

  • Michaela

    Gee..you really live up to your name of online pastry chef! THANKS for the tips and the prompt reply!

    Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE me butter, but not when it interferes with the taste of the cake, plus it’s usually so sweet it makes me cringe. So I will give your recipes a go – got a birthday coming up in March!

  • http://www.evilcakelady.blogspot.com evilcakelady

    I am a big fan of buttercream…well butter in any form, really.
    So the recipes I’ve used for Seven Minute Frosting (Dorie Greenspan, Martha Stewart) specify a temperature the frosting should come up to when beating over boiling water, and it always takes me at least 15 minutes.
    What do you think? Is it important to warm the frosting to a specific temperature?

    • http://www.pastrychefonline.com onlinepastrychef

      @evilcakelady Probably they want to make sure that you kill any little bad guys that might be in the egg whites. If you are using pasteurized egg whites and are whipping over boiling water, you should be fine. In one of Martha’s recipes, she specifies cooking the sugar to 230 degrees before adding it to the egg whites. In that case, she is making more of an Italian meringue than a seven minute frosting, but that might just be semantic quibbling. At 230, you’re only at the thread stage, so I don’t think that’s the issue. At the end of the day, you want to make sure that all the sugar crystals have dissolved and that the frosting gets decidedly *hot* when you are whipping. Hope that helps :)

  • http://www.evilcakelady.blogspot.com evilcakelady

    Thanks, it sure did! Martha’s 7 Minute Frosting requires a temp of 160 degrees. I wondered if it was all about killing things, or if the whites achieved more volume when warmer, or if warming things up made the meringue more stable, or something. So thanks for clearing that up!
    I will wander by more often; hope you will too! :) ECL

  • aimee

    hi, thanks very much for this post. my daughter’s 1st birthday is tomorrow and i’ve been looking forward to making her birthday cake but didn’t know which frosting i’d use until i read your entry on “Stabilized whip cream”. this sounds perfect for the cupcakes and chocolate cake i plan to make! i’ve tried several buttercream recipes but i haven’t had success with any of them in terms of taste (it’s either too sweet or too buttery)..
    can’t wait to try your recipe!

  • susanUK

    Hi Jenni,
    I came across your site whilst looking for help with a problem I have with cream cheese frosting. Basically, I’m trying to create a ‘Manhattan cupcake’(as in the cocktail), with a cream cheese frosting flavoured with bourbon & vermouth. I need to be able to pipe it. So far, my experiments have been a disaster as it all turned into a slush. I also need to add some food colour paste to get the authentic colour. Do you have any suggestions? Reading your posts, I thought maybe I should try adding some gelatin to stabilise the cream cheese? What do you think?
    Many thanks
    Susan